Gary Pronman, Dan Pronman, Movie Star Muscle Cars (Buyer Beware)

If you are offered this 1969.5 A12 Super Bee (VIN #WM23M9A301690) by Gary or Dan Pronman (or anyone else), I suggest you decline the offer. This car is considered stolen property until this ongoing litigation is resolved.

The ongoing saga (most recent events listed first):

February 18, 2011 - Yet another victory for the good guys. Our motion to compel discovery was heard today and the judge agreed with us. The Pronmans now have 20 days to fully respond to our discovery.

January 19, 2011 - The Pronmans finally responded to our discovery request, though their response was late and was nothing but objections - it's déjà vu. Not to worry, we're filing a motion to compel. They just do not seem to respect the US judicial system.

November 3, 2010 - Warning - Dan Pronman (ebay ID: dansmopar) is selling a a Polar White 1970 GTO Judge on eBay. Unfortunately, unsuspecting buyers are actually bidding on it. It is said that this car has a re-stamped block. This is the same car that they tried to sell on Hemmings back in January 2010. If you are considering buying a car from the Pronman brothers (or anyone else), please consult with an expert on that make of vehicle. When it comes to Pontiacs, I highly recommend Gary Riley or Matt Mariacher.

October 15, 2010 - Heard today that Pronmans' legal council in Canada will no longer be representing them. Their council, Tiger-Goldman, is withdrawing from the defamation case. Either they weren't getting paid (like everyone else that conducts business with the Pronmans), or they finally realized they couldn't win the frivolous suit. The nice part about this is that since the Pronmans simply abandoned the case, they are financially penalized by the Quebec courts to the mount of approximately $5,000 (calculated at 1% of their original suit amount). This penalty is payable to me, but like the rest of the money they'll be forced to pay me, I doubt I'll see it.

September 17, 2010 - Our motion for attorney's fees and costs, that was granted on July 8, was finally signed. It took a while because the Pronmans felt like wasting more money to pay their attorney to argue the simple language of the order as my attorney originally drafted it. Fact remains, our motion was granted. Here's a copy of the judge's signed order.

July 21, 2010 - Another day in court and another win. Our motion to strike the Pronman's latest motion to dismiss was granted in part and denied in part. It was denied as it related to the Movie Stars Muscle Cars corporation, which just means we'll have to wait for a special 45-minute hearing to argue this latest frivolous motion. Most importantly though, our motion was granted against the Pronman brothers individually. They are now finally required to answer the charges of my complaint (filed a year ago) and have 10 days to do so.

July 8, 2010 - We had an important win today! The Court agreed with us that the Pronmans and their counsel have unreasonably delayed the case by filing verified motions (supported by affidavits) contesting the court's jurisdiction and venue. The raising of those issues delayed the prosecution of the case for 11 months, wasted the court's valuable time and cost me a substantial amount of money in attorney fees to prove that their defenses were frivolous. In light of the information we were able to obtain in the discovery process and due to the fact that they withdrew these frivolous defenses on the morning of the hearing on them, the judge agreed with us and ruled that we are entitled to sanctions against the Pronmans and their former attorney. The court's ruling stated "This case is extremely familiar to the court. We have gone through many of theses hearings, all of which came down to the question of whether of not the persons were or were not residents of the State of Florida. It is pretty clear to this court that that was not a valid defense. Motion is granted." The sanctions will be for attorney fees and costs that the judge finds related to us having to try to defeat their frivolous defenses. A special thanks to my well-prepared attorneys at Shutts & Bowen, including Edward O'Sheehan and Temple Kerns for their persistence though 100+ hours spent over the last 11 months. Today's victory has given me a renewed faith that truth and justice can prevail in our judicial system.

July 1, 2010 - In response to the defendants' latest attempt to avoid fighting this case on the merits, we've filed an amended motion to strike their motion to have the case dismissed. They'll keep telling everyone that they have a justifiable reason for defrauding me, yet they refuse to let this case get to trial so the court can make a fair ruling.

June 22, 2010 - Today the Pronmans and their friend, Patrick Young, conspired together to create an publish false and malicious information about me on a website. In addition to the website containing private information such as my birth date and social security number, the website also appeared to contain Dan Pronman's version of the story. I'm not surprised that they'd create a retaliatory website; I'm certainly not surprised that that they'd mislead and lie (they've already done that under oath). The one thing that surprises me is that the Pronmans actually have a friend...

June 3, 2010 - No surprise today - Upon showing up for today's long-awaited Jurisdiction/venue hearing, the Pronmans new council stated they were conceding that Florida has jurisdiction and Broward County is the proper venue. He then confused the judge by stating that the felt the case should go forward based on the merits, but then provided a motion to have the case dismissed for new unfounded reasons. Of course we'll bring this up at next month's sanctions hearing as well.

May 24, 2010 - Last week, the About Us page on the Movie Star Muscle Cars website was edited. Specifically, the reference to the Coral Springs office address was erased. I suspect this may have been a direct reaction to the Coral Springs code enforcement department knocking on their door because they have been operating their business out of Gary's home for many years.

April 26, 2010 - This is how you define karma. It certainly appears that the Pronmans aren't fulfilling their obligations to others -- and this time it's the bank. Both Gary Pronman's home (which is also the Florida office for Movie Star Muscle Cars) and the condo which Gary & Dan co-own are being foreclosed upon. Visit the browardclerk.org website, cases CACE10017322 and CACE10018013, for more information. I'm certainly glad I don't have a car half-way through a restoration in their shop right now!

April 13, 2010 - Another day in court and another small victory for the good guys. This was a motion hearing initiated by the Pronmans in an attempt to compel me to answer questions unrelated the case. Their motion was dismissed. Next pivotal court dates are in June 3, where I finally get my hearing on Jurisdiction/Venue and July 8, where the Pronmans will hopefully be punished with sanctions for their frivolous delay tactics and lies under oath.

April 8, 2010 - Looks like the Pronmans paid their invoice for website hosting. The Anglefire banner ads are now gone.

April 1, 2010 - Even if my case against the Pronmans is won, I seriously doubt I will ever see any restitution. As of this week, I'm told that the Movie Star Muscle Cars Canadian office phone is disconnected (update: it appears to be used by Bob Cabral as an evening-only phone on his for-sale listings); their www.moviestarmusclecars.com website now has banner ads (assume that the hosting fees haven't been paid) and they changed their attorney (maybe they couldn't pay the original attorney any more).

March 30, 2010 - Received notification of the Pronman's new attorney. Lorne Kaiser, of Romanello, PA, located at 1560 Sawgrass Corporate Pkwy., Sunrise, FL 33323.

March 18, 2010 - Received word that the Pronmans will no longer be represented by their attorney, Mark Bockstein. Call it a hunch, but I suspect that even their previous attorney was fed-up with the Pronmans' perjury and unsubstantiated delay tactics (or he wasn't getting paid).

March 15, 2010 - Just received my May issue of Mopar Collector's Guide magazine. Page 20 has photos and a caption titled "WWF's GOT NOTHING ON BARRETT." View it here, or visit MCG to get your own copy.

March 10, 2010 - Transcripts of Gary Pronman's deposition and Dan Pronman's deposition have been officially recorded. As they are now public information, they are available for your amusement.

February 17, 2010 - Nothing spells F-U-N like sitting across the conference table from the Pronman brothers and their attorney for five long hours. Gary blew a gasket and stormed out of the room after the 5th question, refusing to answer if he was a US citizen or not. We got him back and the questioning continued. It was rather funny. He would never answer "yes;" instead he'd either answer "no," which meant 'no,' or "I object," which usually meant 'yes.' Dan did a better job at lying, but neither of these guys did that good. My personal favorite was when asked why their website listed a Coral Springs, Florida office address and why all their print ads listed a Florida phone number and/or a parkland location they said "those where mistakes or typos." I guess Gary's business card was also "just a typo?"

February 9, 2010 - Another morning in court and another small victory. Today's motion was because the Pronmans wanted a protective order to prevent them from being deposed. They came in whining about this website and the T-shirt I wore in Scottsdale. The judge stopped their attorney mid-sentence and told them we have the first amendment which guarantees free speech and if they didn't like it, they should file a different suit. The judge once again ordered them to answer our interrogatories and said he would allow us to depose them as it relates to questions and evidence gathering concerning jurisdiction and venue. Despite their best efforts to hide the truth and confuse the court, the Pronmans will be deposed next week on the 17th.

January 21, 2010 [Scottsdale, AZ] - The Pronman brothers didn't like the truth being told. Thursday afternoon, I walked into the Barrett-Jackson auction I wearing my T-shirt which read "I paid $84,000 to Gary & Dan Pronman (Movie Star Muscle Cars) for a 1969 Super Bee but all I got was this lousy T-shirt." Samantha and I stopped in the bidders area to talk to a colleague; within minutes, Gary and Dan started snapping pictures of us from 20' away. Then, unexpectedly, they approached us from behind; when 100-lb Samantha took out her cell phone and snapped a picture of how close they were, Dan, in an apparent attempt to grab or knock the camera-phone out of her hand, struck her wrist thereby committing physical assault. With multiple witnesses watching, a small scuffle broke out and Gary shouted "let's take it outside" and then verbally threatened to "kick our assess." Security and the police were called on them. Unfortunately, they were not ejected from the event and we had to cautiously endure two more days of them stalking us, taking more pictures and watching who we spoke to and associated with. The weekend event culminated on Saturday night at 9pm on left-center stage when Gary walked behind Brian stated "I'm going to kill you," as he exited the stage.

January 10, 2010 - The Pronmans are basically ignoring the court order to answer our interrogatories (questions), despite all that we 're trying to do at this point is to gather evidence to present at the venue hearing this year. I suspect the judge will not be happy when he finds out the Pronmans are ignoring his order.

December 15, 2009 - Another day in court and another attempt by the Pronmans to have the case dismissed has been denied by the judge. Despite the fact that both bothers were present in the Florida courtroom, they contest that all witnesses reside in Canada. We asked and were granted the ability to start the discovery process -- The case continues, and now we have the court has mandated that they answer our interrogatories within 30 days. Of course, we'll also be deposing them.

November 22, 2009 - Based on the subpoenas we sent out, we've received records back on Dan Pronman's cell phone. It turns out the cell phone number that Dan Pronman is using to conduct business in Florida (see CudaWorld.com ad) is registered to a master account under the name Rona B Pronman (his wife). The 11575 NW 71st Place in Parkland, Florida (where the monthly bills are mailed) matches the city of Parkland in the Cudaworld.com ad listing.

November 18, 2009 - My attorney notified the Pronmans and their council with a notice that we intend to motion for sanctions based on their frivolous delay tactics.

November 16, 2009 - I was served today with motion to institute proceedings. Yup, they're trying to scare me off my attempting to sue me in Canada for defamation. Defamation? if the shoe fits, wear it! I'm not scared. I will continue to maintain this public service website in order to prevent others from becoming victims!

November 7, 2009 - No surprise, the Pronmans objected to the amended complaint and are again attempting to have the case dismissed based on Jurisdiction. Notice how they still won't address the real issue here? They just keep on using the clogged up court system to delay the inevitable.

October 8, 2009 - We've filed an amended complaint.

October 1, 2009 - Our written response to the defamation threat. In our response we ask them to let us know if this site contains any false or inaccurate statements (they never replied, so they must agree with the factuality of the information published on this site).

September 23, 2009 - The Pronman brothers have now resorted to using new aliases to attempt to sell and buy cars. Check out these recent ads: CudaWorld.com, Yenko.net #1 and Yenko.net #2, listed by zraremusclecars@aol.com and autocollection2@aol.com (Dave S) -- these are the Pronmans at work! I'm not surprised by their need to use aliases.

Here are a couple more threads on the Pronman brothers at work: thread 1 and thread 2.

Update: The Yenko.net #1 ad was pulled down by one of the moderators after finding out the Pronmans didn't own the car they were listing for sale. It's like déjà vu all over again ;)

September 18, 2009 - Received a letter today from a Canadian attorney threatening to sue me for $500,000 for defamation of character. I have nothing to fear -- on this website I am only stating the facts of my civil case and providing a consolidated place to read the publicly available information about Gary and Dan Pronman.

September 15, 2009 - Pronman's motion to dismiss was heard today in Broward County. Neither Gary nor Dan Pronman were present. Their council attempted to make the argument that Movie Star Muscle Cars was a Canadian corporation and therefore the suit should be filed in Canada. We successfully argued that they regularly conduct business in Florida and that because fraud was committed, the corporate veil does not shield them. Obviously the Pronmans have played this game before and that's why they craftily conduct business in the USA, request payments be made to them personally and attempt to shelter themselves with a foreign corporation.

August 26, 2009 - The Pronmans are attempting to have the case dismissed on the grounds that the venue (location of the trial) shouldn't be Broward County Florida. They believe the venue should be in Montreal Canada. Gary lives in Coral Springs, Florida, Dan lives in Parkland, Florida (with his wife and children), they list one of their 'office address' as Gary's condo in Florida. Additionally, the brothers swear under oath that Movie Star Muscle Cars is not a Florida corporation and that they have no physical office in Florida (which contradicts their own website and their business cards).

August 19, 2009 - Mark Bockstein, attorney at law, will be accepting service for both Gary and Dan Pronman. According to public records, Bockstein has represented Gary on some of his other cases including his multiple criminal cases, injury accident and divorce.

August 7, 2009 - My civil complaint against both Gary Pronman and Dan Pronman, has been filed and recorded in the Broward County Courthouse. It is currently in the hands of process servers in Florida and Montreal.

July 7, 2009 - While the legal process begins, I create this website in the hopes to warn other potential victims of the shady business practices of the Pronman brothers.

July 3, 2009 - I filed criminal charges against the Pronmans with various police departments (Montreal PD case #07090703015, Coral Springs PD case #091740329, Delray Beach PD case #09-14776). Unfortunately, according to Ms LaChance, the Montreal Police officer that took my report, Quebec has so much fraud that it will take 10-12 months for this case to be reviewed by one of their investigators. Apparently, this is due to the exceptionally high amount of fraud that is committed out of Quebec.

July 1, 2009 - Initial demand letter drafted and sent to Gary Pronman & Dan Pronman.

June 25, 2009 - After some phone calls to other dealers and brokers, I learn that the Pronman brothers never even owned the A12 Super Bee at the time the sent me a bill of sale and I wired the payment in full (surprise #6)

June 22 - I receive an email from Dan Pronman with five (5) bogus invoices totaling $70,625 US Dollars. I call Gary to question the invoices and he tells me that he is keeping the A12 Superbee unless I pay him the additional $70,625 (surprise #5). One invoice is for transportation and storage of the A12 'Bee (which I never asked for) and the other four are 100% unrelated to the car. I inform him that I dispute the validity of these invoices and warn him that what he is doing is extortion and fraud. He tells me to sue him. I call my lawyer.

June 1 - June 21 - Gary refuses to forward original paperwork (title, build sheet, GTS visual) nor will he allow me to take delivery of the car, despite my repeated requests. No reason is given, and most calls and emails to him go unanswered.

May 18, 2009 - I notify Gary Pronman that I will no longer be transacting business with him due to the "backstabbing" he gave me at the Mecum Spring Auction in Indianapolis. During the auction, he requested that I not bid-up two cars that his friend was planning to purchase; I didn't. In turn, I requested he not interfere with an off-block deal I was working directly with Dana; he agreed, however, he went around my back and purchased one of the cars I was trying to buy. Upon returning home, I emailed Gary that his antics were unacceptable and that I would no longer conduct business with him.

April 28, 2009 - I find out the car isn't located in nor titled in the USA (surprise #2 & #3).

April 26, 2009 - I wire the $84,000 USD to the bank account specified by Gary on the bill of sale. It turns out that this is the bank account of his Brother Dan Pronman in Montreal Canada (surprise #1).

April 25, 2009 - Gary Pronman offers me a 1969-1/2 A12 Super Bee via email (VIN #WM23M9A301690). We negotiate and agree upon a sale amount, including Gary's 'brokerage fee' totaling $84,000 US Dollars.

March 15, 2009 - In hind sight, I should have relied on my gut instinct to not continue to conduct business with Gary Pronman. On March 15 he offered me a red '69 Boss 429 for $225,000 which had already been offered to me for $215,000 three days earlier by another broker. Obviously he was attempting to make an extra $10,000 in addition to his brokerage fee. So much for transparency!